Homeschoolers In College Can Sniff Out the BS

Here’s an interesting twist to homeschoolers going to college – they know how to sniff out the BS. This was posted to my California homeschooling Yahoo! group. (Reprinted with permission.)

My son had his first college class today, and I’m thinking I’ve finally discovered a negative to homeschooling – his expectation was that he would learn a lot today and he was disappointed.

BUT, the big shocker came when we went to the recommended counseling appointment. What a waste that was! So far through the ordeal of red tape this last week, this has been a very parent friendly campus, and they have not only encouraged my presence, but required it at least once, since he’s underage. But today, Madam Counselor looked at me and wanted to know who I was. I told her and she looked at my son and asked if it was ok that I was there. Then she asked him how old he was, and when he said 17, she said, “oh a baby face”. I could hardly believe such rudeness! If that’s her nickname for young college kids, she should keep it to herself.

She wanted to know his interests, his goals and such, and he said he’s undecided. Then she proceeded to give him the worst counseling I have ever heard! She put down a few suggested classes for next semester and counted up the units and then proceeded to suggest a few additional “easy” classes. An art class that watches movies for an easy grade. A health class that would teach nutrition and diabetes and would satisfy PE and an elective. I did mention that he was going to college to learn and not to just pass requirements as easily as possible. She didn’t appreciate that. I asked about Spanish, and she said it wasn’t required for his major – now keep in mind, he had just told her he’s undecided at this point and wants to keep his options open.

I was so glad I was there, because I’d never have believed the awful advice she was dispensing – she made it seem like a mill where they push the kids through with the least requirements to beat the system. As soon as we were out of there, I proclaimed my disdain, and my son said he was really glad to hear that, since he had not been impressed either. In fact the first thing he did when we got home was to go online and check out her own education. He doesn’t plan to go back to this office, but he is being charitable and saying the others are probably better. At least he’s keeping some humor about this. I’m thoroughly annoyed.

Oh, and she kept suggesting that he could become a high school teacher, although he not once suggested an interest in that. I wonder how many kids get manipulated and end up doing things that aren’t the best choice for them.

People worry that homeschoolers can’t get into college. And then once they are there, that they won’t be able to function because of all the social and work demands that they didn’t have when they were sitting around eating bonbons and playing WoW for 18 years.

Perhaps what they should be worried about, is that homeschoolers will make it to college, and will recognize right away the absurdity of the system.

5 Responses to “Homeschoolers In College Can Sniff Out the BS”

  1. Sarah Rainsberger Says:

    I would offer that it’s possible that this woman is actually really good *at her job* (which, I might add, doesn’t mean she’s a good *counselor*).

    If most of the freshman she sees need to be steered towards easy courses so that they don’t drop out (or worse, come back and blame the counselor for suggesting such unmanageable courses) or if she ends up “counseling” several seniors who somehow couldn’t manage to keep track of the various degree requirements and are now faced with the possibility of not graduating on time, then her behaviour is perfectly reasonable and understandable.

    At a time where so many students are heading off to university unprepared (but would never know it because it would damage their self esteem to tell them), I can see this type of “counseling” working just fine for many students.

    I saw things like this in private high schools all the time: staff, parents and students all participating in one big mass delusion where courses are easy, marks are high and everyone’s happy.

    I’m not, of course, defending the quality of the counseling received; I’m simply pointing out that it might surprise us to learn what constitutes “job success” as a college counselor.

    I’ll bet the administration probably doesn’t receive too many complaints from students about counselors who steer undecided students towards easy classes and breadth requirements.

  2. Luke Holzmann Says:

    Great post!

    However, I would like to mention that I play WoW but don’t eat bonbons [smile]. And, as a product of homeschooling, I’ll also point out that WoW can be an incredibly powerful tool to connect with friends and a ministry opportunity to reach people around the world who feel free to open up to you because they are currently a Gnomish Mage. Just sniffing out some potentially dangerous counsel [smile].

    ~Luke

  3. Spunky Says:

    I just went to see a high school counselor with my 17 year old son and my experience was quite the opposite. She was very helpful and encouraging. With her help, he was able to sign up for 15 credits that included a math class, a geography class, speech, and a sound engineering class.

    This is my second experience with this college and I had a very similar experience with my daughter. A different counselor challenged and encouraged her in many helpful ways. He was very supportive of homeschoolers and suggested my daughter take an Arabic course given her areas of interest. She took his advice and loved the challenge of learning a new alphabet and language at the same time. This has now led her to work with Arab speaking women and children in our area (Detroit) which is very heavily Arab.

    So there are good counselors out there. We asked around before we met with ours to make sure that we just didn’t land with whoever happened to show up for work that day.

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  5. Barbara Says:

    Our older son met with 3 advisors: one for athletics, one for Army ROTC and one for the Lib Arts school. I also obtained samples of the schedules for his degree in Criminal Law & Justice and read the college course pages online. He was given good counsel; we are tweaking it to make it even more comfortable. Three advisors working together on one student. Wow…


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